I don't mean to be a bother, but I still don't understand. If a is about the size of a poo, and it's designed to stretch, why would hurt and it take months of "training" to get ready, and wouldn't "months" of training allude to the fact it's being permanently altered (I am NOT interested in that for all reasons) So is the training just to get her used to the feeling, and gradually escalate that feeling? You're kind of making me feel like at it's best, anal sex is a sore unfun thing, is that your experience or what you've read Etc?? Again the idea turned me on, but I don't intend to act on something that would end in problems. Moame, I get your lube description I guess, it's just confusing because it's always the sing, more, then more. The description of it's hard to get a hold of it gives a actual description people can visualize rather than guess (and who want's to have to guess in this situation).